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#SP2016 Technical Preview–SharePoint 2010 Workflows still available!

September 8, 2015 Leave a comment

So I am running a project internally at the moment about moving away from a vended product to a capability in Office 365 / SharePoint Online using out of the box functionality as much as possible (cost saving exercise) – The Oil & Gas industry is hitting hard times if you haven’t seen commodity prices lately!

Anyway, this interim / temporary solution requires me to send an email to an external user.

With the SharePoint 2010 workflow engine, you could do this with a standard SharePoint Designer workflow.

In SharePoint 2013 they essentially deprecated the SharePoint 2010 workflow engine and introduced a new Azure based version.

This newer workflow engine requires the user that you send an email to an authenticated user with Active Directory / Azure Active Directory.  This causes me an issue for my temporary solution in SharePoint Online!


Can Nintex Help?


I initially thought… perhaps Nintex Workflow for Office 365 Workflow can help?

Alas, it is based on the SP2013 Workflow engine, so no luck there…

(To be fair, you can’t really blame Nintex for supporting the current standard… I would do the same)


What are my options?


1. Add the external users to Azure AD – Not really an option in this case right now

2. Create a 2010 platform workflow with a single step – Email User.  Call this workflow from the 2013 workflow and hope it stays supported – For this temporary solution, this may work but we all know how temporary often becomes permanent.

3. Create my own code / action to call a web service and send the email – This would work but for this temporary no code solution, it feels overkill.  A good backup however, if the solution turns permanent.

4. Find a 3rd party product that can add actions.  PlumSail has a package:  $400 per year.  – This is also a good option but there is of course this gotcha!

There isn’t going to be a SharePoint Designer 2016.

SharePoint Designer 2013 however still works.




Now that I have my newly installed SP2016 On-Premise environment and I can confirm that this is still currently available when you connect SharePoint Designer 2013 to a SP2016 On-Premise server.


I can also confirm that as of the time of writing, it is also still available in SharePoint Online.

So for this “temporary” project, this is likely the way we will go, knowing full well, it might go away at some point.

Stay tuned for more posts about SharePoint 2016 as I answer my own questions about the real business issues I face.


Found an issue [WITH FIX] with SP2010 April 2012 CU : incoming emails not going to SharePoint

Issue :

Incoming emails to SharePoint are all configured properly and emails are being received in the server’s SMTP Drop folder but they stay there and are not picked up by SharePoint.

Troubleshooting :

Looking at ULS Logs the following error is showing :

E-mail cannot be delivered because site is over quota or locked for editing. Site URL: http://xxxx.

Researching :

A quick Google and it seem that CU April 2012 has raised this issue:

SharePoint incoming email Fix :

Following the steps fixes the issue except for Nintex:

-> SharePoint Central Administration > Application Management > Configure quotas and locks > on the Site Quota Information section >  set a limit (i.e: 5000 MB) on this setting:  “Limit site storage to a maximum of:”  > and then press “OK”.

Nintex issue :

I now work a lot with Nintex workflow and one of the greatest feature in the product is the ability to approve a task via email response called “Lazy Approval”.

The issue with the above is that Nintex drops the Lazy Approval emails in to a HIDDEN library under the Central Administration, therefore we need to set a quota to the Central Admin site as well but as you will experience there no way to select the Central Administration Web app when setting Quota.

Nintex Lazy Approval Fix :

I found the fix on the Nintex connect forum here.

1) get the storagemaximumlevel for Central Administration using PowerShell :

$ca = get-spsite -identity http://sharepointserver:portnumber

Result should be 00000 since no quota is usually set for Central Admin site.

2) set a maximum quota



No IISRESET is required and email will leave SMTP DROP Folder to be treated by Nintex Lazy Approval in a few seconds once Timer Job restarts.

Conclusion :

Seems that either not many environment use Incoming Emails to Sharepoint libraries or not many have upgraded to April 2010 CU since there isn’t much articles about this, hopefully the next CU will fix this issue otherwise make sure you include this workaround in your Sharepoint and Nintex configuration.


[Update] April 2012 CU was removed and re-releaed however it still does not fix the incoming email, making this look like a definite move to disable it by default.

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